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Rafa Carrió: "We agreed because we wanted to be that containment dam against reactionary policies"

23 June 2023 - 08: 37

Rafa Carrió It has been decisive for this Dénia government. Rather, his team, since he claims to repudiate personalities. But it was the objective they had, to be decisive, something they have achieved and they have reached an agreement by the City Council that was doubted on the street. Also, like all mayors, he pursued the mayor's office. And he has achieved it, or will do so in 2026 when there is that famous transfer of powers. It is the first time in the history of Dénia that it has happened and, therefore, an interview with a future mayor can be done years in advance. But it is, above all, an interview to talk about agreements, projects and the new political scenario.

ASK. You open office. It feels?

ANSWER. Rerun, which is the same one I spent between 2015 and 2019 [laughs]. I am very happy, because we wanted to be in a place where we could move forward with policies and projects, from our point of view of progressivism and Valencianism. We already did it in 2015, now we are in the same place and what we want is to work with dignity for our projects.

Q. Was it easy to get the agreements that have brought you here?

R. Yes, it was easy. In principle there was a stopper, because we asked for a time in the Mayor's Office. And why did we ask for the mayor's office? Because within our negotiation objectives we know from experience, for that period of 2015, that we need to make our work visible as Compromís. It was important to us, and although it was not contemplated at first, it was understood and an agreement was reached by the PSPV.

P. Rereading the interview we had in the campaign, there are many indications that the Mayor's Office was going to be on top of the table. Were you clear from the beginning?

R. First of all, it is not about personalities at all. We analyze a lot those things that we miss, or what we lacked, in that Acord del Castell. One was to make ourselves visible, and this happened through the Mayor's Office. And the other can have resources. Resources to be able to carry well and with dignity what we councilors that we are now can carry. And that's why we wanted the mayor's office, in addition to the fact that when one presents himself and is a mayor, it is what he is looking for.

We have accomplished everything we wanted. Improve results, although we have not increased the number of councilors, be decisive and those things that we believe are essential to work with dignity and make our work visible, which we somehow understand is what we lacked in the previous Acord del Castell.

Q. On the street for days this progressive pact was not so clear. Did you ever think of facilitating a different government?

R. No. We are very clear about this: we are progressives and we also know what is coming. That is to say, we have to resist that tsunami that is coming our way, that trend or that fashion would react. And we knew that we wanted to be that containment dam against those policies. That is why we wanted to reach an agreement with a progressive party and apply our Valencianist policies.

Sure, we could have also worked in the opposition. It is what we valued in the negotiations. Either we go to the opposition and do the work there or we agree with a group that is very much in tune with most of our policies to do them from within. So it was.

Q. Have you or PSPV had to give up program points?

R. No. This was also clear to us, because we talked about competitions and many things, but in the end it is the program that interests us. What we have to project these four years. We put the two programs and as of today, we still have to draw up a roadmap, there is no problem. We have that very clear decalogue.

Examples are whatever you want. If they were talking about improving the Torrecremada area, we were also talking about making a multifunctional space there. If they talked about making social housing in the old houses of the railwaymen, we wanted it to be something multicultural that combines perfectly. Our proposals were very similar and this week we will finish with those small details so that everything we propose is accepted and everything they propose is accepted, to do the program together. I don't think we won't reach agreements.

Q. The parking in height?

R. It is also agreed. We are clear that the furthest away car parks are necessary, next to Pla Movilitat, which are part of this softening of the urban center. What we like is to talk to see what possibilities there are.

P. And the tourist tax, you wanted to commit to sit down and think about whether to apply it.

R. More than sitting down, it was making an exhaustive study of the pros and cons, as we told AEHTMA. We are in favor if it is productive. I understand that in many towns it is going well and it does not imply that people do not go. Regarding Tourism, many things can be done that cannot be done in other places. Subjects of beaches, hospitality promotion themes. Dénia is not the same as Barcelona or Paris. It will be applied if possible and if not not.

Q. Are you happy with the skills you have achieved?

R. We are very happy, because they have been, first, councilors that we could carry out with dignity, because otherwise we would be doing those departments a disservice. Afterwards, they are councilors that are in tune with our way of acting and with which we councilors are comfortable. We had two proposals for each councilor, and in the end, without any problem, we have agreed on the ones we consider we can best defend.

Q. It was assumed that you would occupy Culture.

R. Good yes. But I want to give you the importance of the Vice Mayor's office and the sharing of the City Council. Culture and Education I have already taken them. There are two councils that are working and in which we will participate, because we are not talking about each one having their council, but that they will all be in tune.

Q. You have three councilors in the government, in important areas. Bearing in mind that your program and that of the PSPV are not exactly day and night, are there going to be big changes in those departments?

R. Not at all, and hopefully not over time either. Now we are going to continue with the projects that they carried out in the councils, because they are projects that come from the Acord del Castell. And then we will apply the policies that will also be reflected in the road map of the two.

Q. So, do you think that the work done in these areas in the last four years has been good, or is there work ahead?

R. For four years we have not criticized those policies. We have criticized other things. Therefore, we agree.

Q. This week we have met to the personnel released from the corporation, and you won't be until 2026, it seems. How is that?

R. We are clear about working with dignity, in time and resources. What's happening? That one of ours, María José [García], could free herself and dedicate herself 100% to the City Council. And the skills that she has are adequate for her to have that time, because the whole issue of Economic Promotion is heavy. Later, the other councilor, Valen [Alcalà], is at 50% because he wants to make the effort to continue working with the company he is with. Sure, this is limited. We cannot take and say "we free ourselves so many". It is a measure that is proportional to the councilors of the PSPV and ours.

A councilor and a half is pretty balanced. And I am lucky to be retired, like in 2015 when I did not free myself either. My retirement gives me time and somehow financially I am also a little covered. For this reason, for the good of the work, for the good of Compromís, and for the good of the work of our councilors, well, I will not free myself. Something that I personally decided. The politician has to collect, but if I already have a pension and there is the possibility that another is freed for the sake of policies moving forward, then I take a step back.

Q. And, although it is a long way to go, you are going to be the first mayor of Compromís per Dénia, like Compromís already.

R. Yes, taking into account that Sebastià [Garcia] was already mayor and this was a shock. Personally, it is a tremendous pride. I have already been vice mayor, but I think that being mayor is the greatest pride when someone dedicates time to work for society. Therefore, I am proud to be able to represent all citizens. And familiarly it was a thorn that I have, because my family has always been in politics.

But not as personalism. I have no desire to be mayor. I am just one of the Compromís project and from the Mayor's Office I can carry out those policies that have an impact on the well-being of people. In politics there are many sticks, and you get a lot of trouble, but just having one person say thank you and that you are doing well is a great source of pride for me.

Q. Do you think that the neighbors will notice that change of command in 2026?

R. What we would like to be in the Mayor's Office is for it to be seen that Compromís is doing things. Not only is it the PSPV, but we have shared the legislature. It is the visibility of our task.

Q. What projects would you like to see closed during this legislature?

R. We are going to fight so that all the Inclusive Policies projects such as residence, or the CRIS and the CEEM are present. It is essential that this be finished and be a reality because it has cost, being a work of the Bontànic together with the City Council. And they are basic necessities. Also the Pla Edificant, the new conservatory, the Raquel Payá, the new FP center in Gent de Mar, the reforms of the IES María Ibars. It is what I would most like to end and not touch. Of course, for the hospital to be publicly managed and for the General Plan to start operating and resume activity with fewer legal problems, which are the ones that now overwhelm us.

Q. You have been touched by areas like Habitatge. With the current housing crisis that Dénia is suffering, how are you going to work?

R. I have already been in the department and I have spoken with the officials who are in Housing. The aid that there is will be essential, as well as ensuring that they are increased and not removed. The new housing law in stressed areas, such as this one, we have to contemplate in order to have these regulations and this way of functioning without being abusive with the issue of the summer period. Later, we are clear that the General Plan that has been in force since last Tuesday contemplates that 30% of what is built must be social housing. We have to take this to the letter. And manage the issue of the SAREB and work on new initiatives so that everyone has decent housing, as the Constitution says.

Q. So, will you ask that Dénia be considered as a stressed area?

R. Yes of course. It's fundamental. It will help us to be able to develop those housing policies for everyone.

Q. In addition, you would have an ace up your sleeve, which I don't know if you are willing to spend, which is the limitation of rental prices.

R. Sure, but this has to be done right. The first thing they would tell us is “you are going against private rights”. No no. It has to be done well for the benefit of the tenant and the renter.

Q. You also have Linguistic Normalization. It seems that you are not going to have much support from the Generalitat.

R. Right now, I'm worried. As soon as we see their policies, I will have to take care of myself, rather than worry. Yes, the fly is behind the ear, but we are not going to step back and lose any rights. Valencian is a language of its own that is recognized in the Statute and we are going to defend it wherever it is so that those rights we have achieved are not taken away. And always to the people who come here and do not know their own language, we will facilitate from the City Council that they have that integration.

It's not about annoying anyone. It is about maintaining the culture, the own identity, that feeling of the peoples who share the Valencian language. Because it is very nice to think, love and live in one's own language. This is the identity of a people.

Q. What do you think the new Government of the Generalitat will mean for the Valencian?

R. We will have to be resistant there. I don't like to talk until things are on the table. Although they have already been doing some little note, like removing the Oficina del Valencià... I think it will be a setback.

What bothers me a lot, really, is having to return to the starting point. I am already older and in the 70s we were already fighting. Since then, to achieve everything that has been achieved and now with a stroke of the pen to air it... We are not willing, we will fight so that this does not happen and to continue giving dignity to our language.

Q. And for Valencians in general, what will the new Generalitat mean?

R. A setback, for sure. Knowing what we know. Because we don't know anything about Vox and the PP He is giving you all the support. And knowing that the PP is giving it everything Vox wants, it looks bad. It breaks my schemes. paint baixetes, as the pilotaris say.

Q. What are your goals in your other department, Public Health?

R. We want health to be transversal. In the environment, in sport, in the elderly and young. Both physical and mental health. We already have important campaigns on the table, such as taking advantage of summer now so that there can be skin, freckle, and dermatology reviews. Health is also that children can go to school on foot, for example. We want to promote everything with promotional campaigns and aid.

Q. Regarding the Hospital, do you honestly believe that the reversal will take place?

R. We are going to fight for the reversal to be effective. I believe that it will take place, because there is a lot of pressure from citizens. And here we always have the strength, the citizens and the citizens. The fight that we at Salud want to do is to improve care and workers. It's basic. Health can never be seen as profitable, if not an investment.

In the event that the Popular Party and Vox lead to stories, we are going to fight everything we can to make it happen. We have spent too many years watching what happens.

Q. During the speech you made at the inauguration, you said that this would surely be your last legislature.

R. Yes, only by a logical order I have to end this legislature. But whenever I say that I will not do a certain thing, in the end I have done it. Compromís has achieved something very difficult in political groups. We have a renewal, we have made a transition. Now there are a lot of young people, which is incredible, although they lack the experience that we will be gaining this legislature. And they are the ones who have to carry out this project. That they want to dedicate time to work for the rest of the people, time highly appreciated by young people, is an incredible value. I am very proud of the team we have made. And yes, the logical thing would be for this legislature to end and take a step to the side for the youth, never back.

P. It's a bit risky to leave the party after getting the last year of mayor's office, isn't it? Don't you think that the voters will associate your image with that year of government?

R. I can't be a Biden who is there forever [laughs]. I don't believe in personalities, but in projects. The Mayor's Office is to make all the councilors of Compromís visible.

But I don't believe. I hope not! Here the people pass, and the projects have to stay. Who wants to live from politics I think it's a mistake. You have to live for politics.

Q. To finish, something you have shown a lot of interest in in recent years: are we now going to see the Santa Llúcia roundabout during this legislature?

R. That's a good question [laughs]. It's on the roadmap. I know that it is in the project and is about to be tendered. It has remained as a project to claim Compromís, but it is necessary. We will give that security to the citizens of Montgó.

Comments
  1. Antonio Carmona says:

    impressive, extreme left, communist, separatist and catalanist. that agrees with bildu, heirs of ETA
    that does not protect minors under guardianship
    and he tells you an impressive roll

    • Impolito says:

      It is unfortunate that from compromis cases like that of María Teresa TM are silenced and from the media the focus of attention is not focused on this very serious case, I do not want to imagine if instead of Compromis, Oltra and Valdovi, this case would have been something of VOX, the media persecution would be incommendable. Feminism did not apply to this poor defenseless girl, nor the defense of the government, nor anything. Only silence and ostracism from the Puig executive.

  2. Rafent says:

    He looks happy for the deputy mayor given away.

    When it comes to work, is he just as effusive, or only when he opens his office?

  3. Fernando says:

    Reactionary is a national-independence party that supports Bildu to the coup plotters and wants to turn us into Catalan fachas. Although it must be recognized that they know how to hide their authoritarian vocation quite well. They are going to sink even more in the generals, but the majority of people who vote for them continue to believe that they are Valèncianistas. Nothing further.

  4. Juan Fernandez says:

    Come on Rafa stop telling Chinese tales. What you wanted is to be queen for a day, I mean mayor for a year..

  5. Bernard says:

    BlaBlaBla Mr. Carrio, we will see.

  6. Luis says:

    They have voted for them. Mediocres voting for mediocres to foster a mediocre society. There is nothing else, But the Holidays well.

  7. Rudolf says:

    A “Valencianista” party that agrees with the Pancatalnistas and claims to be concerned about the language and to return to the struggle of the 70s?
    I'm sorry, but once again it shows that your project is empty, and without a program, your words prove it by criticizing pacts in the Generalitat. Isn't yours out of mere interest in supporting a false progress of the "Country" to get a mayor's office and some councilors? Is that the will of the people?
    It continues to show that Compromís is not a complementary party, it is the puppet of Grimalt and his minions and you are the first.
    What do we have left?, more taxes?, empty projects to enrich their pockets?, a roundabout?…. The future of Denia, what future? That one that they publish in their 12 main empty points of the new legislature?
    Or its non-existent Botànic dead and buried by an overwhelming majority in the Region?
    He already has his office and can now be happy, he is once again that little doll that everyone takes advantage of and the head of a party condemned for something that he sees as a "fashion" instead of a reality.
    They give little confidence


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